1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,000 I'm in Poland at the former headquarters for Hitler's subterranean weapons project 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:14,000 to investigate the secret work of the Third Reich and their apparent interests in the occult, 3 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:20,000 ancient wisdom and possibly even advanced extraterrestrial technology. 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:29,000 At the height of World War II, the Nazis engaged their top scientists to develop a number of what they referred to as Wundawaffen 5 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:31,000 or Wonder Weapons. 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Weapons that were so diabolical and so scientifically incredible, 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,000 they would turn the tide of the war against the Allies. 8 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,000 According to testimony collected just after the war, 9 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:51,000 one of these top secret projects was codenamed the Glocke or the Bell 10 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:56,000 and it was believed to be a serious attempt to create a time travel device 11 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:02,000 that could soar through the sky and eventually maybe even reach the speed of light. 12 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:10,000 But following the war, no trace of the bell was ever found, only a handful of drawings. 13 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:15,000 I'm determined to find out whether or not this device actually existed 14 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:21,000 and if so, could it have been based on designs left behind by ancient astronauts? 15 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:26,000 Could there really be a link between extraterrestrial visitors and the Third Reich? 16 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,000 My name is Georgiy Tsukaloz. 17 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:37,000 I explore the world that exists between reality and speculation, the known and the unknown. 18 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:43,000 What we've been taught by mainstream scholars is not the whole picture, 19 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,000 but I'm convinced that every day we are one step closer to the truth. 20 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,000 The German Army 21 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,000 During the Second World War, it was widely believed that the German army 22 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,000 possessed the most technologically advanced military on the planet, 23 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:16,000 boasting an arsenal that included guided missiles, jet aircraft and precision bombers. 24 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Adolf Hitler planned to use this weaponry to defeat the Allied forces 25 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,000 and create an empire that would rule the world. 26 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:33,000 But after they were defeated in 1945, more than 1,600 German scientists 27 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:38,000 were brought to the United States as part of Operation Paperclip. 28 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:44,000 And there are some who believe that these diabolical minds brought secret knowledge 29 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:48,000 that may have had an extraterrestrial origin. 30 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,000 I'm in Lubikowice, Poland with Igor Witkovski, 31 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:03,000 author of The Truth About the Wundewafe or Wonder Weapons. 32 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:07,000 In 1997, while working as a military journalist, 33 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,000 Igor was shown original documents by a Polish intelligence officer 34 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:17,000 concerning a top secret Nazi project titled Kronos 35 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:22,000 and a mysterious weapon known as the Glocke or the Bell. 36 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Because Kronos in ancient Greek mythology is also the name of the Titan God of Time, 37 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:35,000 there are some who believe that Project Kronos involved the study of time travel. 38 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:40,000 And the Glocke might have been part of some type of a time machine. 39 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:51,000 We are turning left and we're just about to enter the valley in Lubikowice, Poland, 40 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:58,000 which was sort of a Nazi equivalent of the area 51, I guess. 41 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,000 Igor is taking me to a place called The Henge, 42 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,000 which is believed to be a former Nazi science laboratory 43 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,000 and the headquarters for Project Kronos. 44 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:14,000 So this entire valley was sealed off and for what purpose was it sealed off? 45 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,000 I mean, what was so secret about this area? 46 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:25,000 Under this valley, there is a huge mine that was bankrupted before the war 47 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:30,000 and was taken over by the SS for their purposes 48 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:37,000 because it's something the size of a medium-sized city underground. 49 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Interesting. Okay. 50 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,000 Yeah. See you. 51 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,000 Wow. I mean, I'm speechless right now. I mean, I don't even know what I'm looking at. 52 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 So this is what they're referring to as The Henge. 53 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:05,000 It looks as if it's made of concrete and I mean, it's a very interesting structure. 54 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 So what can you tell me about this? 55 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:14,000 It appears for the first time on aerial photographs in September of 1944. 56 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,000 So it certainly has been built shortly before the end of the war. 57 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:23,000 And the entire valley was dedicated to research and development purposes. 58 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,000 And this is one of the objects here. 59 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:33,000 And do you think that this had something to do with them building the Wunderwaffe and the Glocke? 60 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,000 There is one clue about it. 61 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,000 The entire valley was sealed off from the outside world. 62 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:44,000 And this structure stands in the very center of the security rings. 63 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:49,000 The security rings consisted of lines of fortifications, 64 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:56,000 guarding rooms, bunkers, gates, blockades for tanks, and even lines of trenches, 65 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,000 which is something very unusual because this place was never close to the front line. 66 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,000 Interesting. 67 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:12,000 According to Igor, the entire valley is honeycombed with chambers, tunnels, and subterranean laboratories, 68 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,000 all once dedicated to the development of futuristic technologies. 69 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:21,000 So this here is ground zero for the Wunderwaffe. 70 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:27,000 And looking around, there's some power plants over here which would require a lot of energy. 71 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 And one has to wonder, what was it for? 72 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:39,000 The SS General Hans Kamler has built here an enormous industrial research complex. 73 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:46,000 And this power plant here, which consumed around 1000 tons of coal per day, 74 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,000 was used to power all that undertaking. 75 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:54,000 Leading the search for the Wunderwaffe was Nazi scientist Hans Kamler. 76 00:06:54,000 --> 00:07:00,000 Some claim that Kamler was the most important officer in the SS 77 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:07,000 and masterminded the development of cutting edge projects based upon ancient knowledge. 78 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:12,000 Some have suggested that the hinge was designed to test the Glocke 79 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,000 and that large chains would have been attached to the bizarre structure 80 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,000 so that the bell shaped craft would not fly away prematurely. 81 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:27,000 But the hinge is nothing compared to the vast network of tunnels and chambers 82 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:34,000 which lie hidden underground, the place where many believe the Glocke or the bell was constructed. 83 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,000 This is very creepy down here, very creepy. 84 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:42,000 It's falling. Cold. It's damp. 85 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:48,000 According to Igor, Nazi Germany's prisoners of war were forced to participate 86 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,000 in high-tech experiments here at the Henge. 87 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:59,000 This is the car to the machine here. This also was showing your nace. 88 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:03,000 Wow. This is crazy. 89 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:11,000 Exactly how many of these experiments were conducted is unknown. 90 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:17,000 But it has been documented that many former participants suffered nerve damage 91 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:22,000 and even a condition where the skin was coming off the participants' faces 92 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:27,000 as though they had been exposed to high levels of radiation. 93 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:34,000 So do you think that the bell might have been a type of a propulsion device 94 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,000 for an anti-gravity machine or something like that? 95 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:43,000 The Germans were using a phenomenon which occurs when a high energy vortex of some kind 96 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:51,000 is separated from the outside world and it is causing an anti-gravitational effect. 97 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:59,000 According to reports discovered after the war, some have suggested that German scientists 98 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,000 had been experimenting with anti-gravity technologies 99 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:09,000 and had been developing a type of vortex engine powered by mercury. 100 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:16,000 The idea was that the mercury would spin in a gyroscopic manner within a closed system 101 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:21,000 and create lift, seemingly defying gravity. 102 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:26,000 In much the same way, many modern UFO sightings are described. 103 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:32,000 Are you aware of any blueprints that were ever discovered of this Wunderwaffe, 104 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:36,000 the way it might have been shaped, the way it might have looked like? 105 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,000 It's somewhere here. 106 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Yes, you see, it's something that resembles a bell 107 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:48,000 and it is portrayed here as a part of some larger propulsion system. 108 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,000 A time machine device embedded in something that looks like a flying saucer 109 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,000 could such a device really exist? 110 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:01,000 And if it did, could it really travel through time? 111 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:06,000 The first thing that jumps out at me is that they named this thing here the real number nine 112 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:12,000 and real is something that refers to power in ancient Tibetan and Sanskrit texts. 113 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:16,000 So why would anyone use this? It's a very obscure term, this whole real thing. 114 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:23,000 What can you tell me about why or how this real was actually used in this context here? 115 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:30,000 What they have discovered is that one may induce gravity from electromagnetic forces. 116 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:37,000 The real in this case seems to be the most accurate description of the force that we are discovering. 117 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:45,000 According to Igor, the bell disappeared at the end of the war, along with its mastermind, Hans Kamla. 118 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:52,000 And there are those who speculate to this day that both escaped through a window in time. 119 00:10:53,000 --> 00:11:01,000 Some people have suggested that the stupa shape itself might have had the possibility of time travel. 120 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,000 Do you think that such a thing is possible? 121 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:18,000 I'm at Kassel Czauz in Lower Silesia, Poland, a former development headquarters 122 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:25,000 for many of Adolf Hitler's top secret weapons known as Wunderwaffen or Wonder Weapons. 123 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Author and researcher Igor Wietkowski has brought me here to show me what he claims to be authentic Nazi documentation 124 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:40,000 for a device which some people believe could have been some sort of a time machine. 125 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Igor, do you think that maybe the bell that they also sometimes refer to as the Glocke 126 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,000 was a type of flying craft? 127 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,000 It was a combination of some flying machine with a weapons of mass destruction. 128 00:11:54,000 --> 00:12:01,000 It seems that the bell was the main part of a propulsion system of a flying craft, not a flying craft itself, 129 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,000 but we don't know the rest of the picture. 130 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:11,000 It has been widely reported that the Nazis had an almost fanatical desire to locate and study 131 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:17,000 ancient religious texts and artifacts, which they believe possessed great power. 132 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:24,000 They were also fascinated by the occult and the study of the forbidden or so-called dark arts. 133 00:12:25,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Although much of this ancient knowledge was lost at the end of the war, 134 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:34,000 much of it was thought to be taken by the Allies as spoils of war 135 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:44,000 and may have served as the inspiration for many of the advanced communications and weapons systems in use today. 136 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:52,000 The very idea of generating gravity was based on scientific discoveries that they had made. 137 00:12:52,000 --> 00:13:01,000 They were open also to the idea of incorporating knowledge from the ancient past 138 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:05,000 and the very possibility of other intelligences in the universe. 139 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,000 This all seems highly advanced for its time. 140 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,000 It was such an advanced idea. 141 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:17,000 The most secret research project carried out in the Third Reich, 142 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,000 and I have a very interesting document here which is designed by the General Kamler 143 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:30,000 and says that it was engaging all the forces of the SS at the end of the war. 144 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:40,000 The way Igor describes the bell reminds me of the numerous accounts in ancient Hindu texts of the Vimana. 145 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Airships that could stop on a dime and change direction at top speed, 146 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:50,000 seemingly defying the laws of physics. 147 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:58,000 The ancient Sanskrit text the Mahabharata describes an earthly arrival by these ancient spacecraft, 148 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:02,000 which curiously resemble modern-day UFO accounts. 149 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:11,000 Today, most mainstream historians identify the stories of the Vimanas as works of fiction, 150 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:15,000 but in India, some Hindus regard them as history. 151 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:25,000 Is it possible that the Nazis had somehow rediscovered an alien technology that existed on Earth thousands of years ago, 152 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,000 and if so, where did they get such detailed information? 153 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:37,000 In his 1993 book, Secret Societies and their Power in the 20th Century, 154 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:43,000 author Jan van Helsing wrote that a UFO crashed in Germany's black forest in 1936. 155 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,000 Three years before the start of World War II, 156 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:55,000 according to his account, Hitler's SS troops took possession of the downed craft 157 00:14:55,000 --> 00:15:01,000 and carried it away to their top secret headquarters at Wevelsburg Castle. 158 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:10,000 There, it is believed that Nazi scientists began their attempts to reverse engineer technology found aboard the damaged craft. 159 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:19,000 As I said goodbye to Igor, I couldn't stop thinking about the idea that the strange designs I'd seen of the Nazi bell 160 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:25,000 reminded me not only of Hindu Vimanas, but also of stupas, 161 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,000 an ancient bell-shaped design that Buddhists believed had mystical powers. 162 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:39,000 After leaving Poland, I traveled to Switzerland to meet with my good friend and mentor Eric van Daneken. 163 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:45,000 The founding father behind what's known as the ancient astronaut theory. 164 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:55,000 So do you think that extraterrestrials are responsible why we have the stupa motif today in this particular shape? 165 00:15:55,000 --> 00:16:01,000 You see, we always were copious. We saw some Vimanas which had the shape of a stupa. 166 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:04,000 So later we made copies out of the stupa. 167 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:12,000 The cultures in the past, intellectually, they may have been brilliant, but they couldn't understand the technology. 168 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:20,000 The stupa dates back thousands of years and is believed to have been inspired by early burial mounds, 169 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:26,000 in which the deceased were seated in an upright position and covered with earth. 170 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Later, the stupa was thought to represent a seated Buddha, and over the centuries, 171 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:42,000 its basic bell shape became refined with the addition of more and more elaborate designs. 172 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:53,000 You know, some people have suggested that the stupa shape itself, or that whatever vehicles were described in the past, 173 00:16:53,000 --> 00:17:00,000 might have had the possibility of time travel. Do you think that such a thing is possible? 174 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,000 No, nothing is impossible. 175 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,000 The young Buddha is using his hands to manipulate some control. 176 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:17,000 You have exactly the same pictures in Mexico, sitting in a stupa, the flying machine. 177 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Nothing is impossible. I would not exclude this completely, because who knows what the future brings? 178 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Exactly. 179 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:34,000 So I'm in the Swiss Alps consulting with Erik von Daniken about the Glocke, also known as the bell, 180 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:45,000 to see if he thinks whether or not the Nazis may have been developing a time travel device based on ancient Hindu and Buddhist designs, 181 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:52,000 designs that perhaps were directly inspired by ancient extraterrestrial technology. 182 00:17:53,000 --> 00:18:00,000 You see, the stupa is a shape which you find in the Mahabharata, the old Indian epic. 183 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:04,000 There is a small vehicle called the Manas, at the shape of a stupa. 184 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Since that time, people always copied stupas because stupas had to do something with the God, with heaven. 185 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:18,000 There are numerous accounts in ancient Sanskrit texts that describe the Manas and stupas, ancient chariots of the Gods. 186 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:25,000 And they were described as flying chariots made of gleaming metal with amazing maneuverability in the air, 187 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:29,000 with powerful weapons that could annihilate the enemy from afar. 188 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Some were even described to be able to cloak themselves. 189 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:39,000 Now, while mainstream scholars interpret these events in divine and symbolic terms, 190 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:48,000 the ancient astronaut theory suggests that this is rooted in misunderstood technology and that they were perhaps witnessing extraterrestrial craft. 191 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:53,000 You see, for example, here, this is the so-called Borobudur in Indonesia. 192 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:58,000 It's a gigantic temple and it's just composited of hundreds and hundreds of stupas. 193 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Now, these stupas are not empty. 194 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,000 Every stupa inside is the young Buddha. 195 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,000 And what is the young Buddha doing? 196 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:12,000 He's using his hands, you see, to manipulate some control because according to their belief, 197 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:18,000 the stupa is the small vehicle with which you reach the big vehicle. 198 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,000 The big vehicle is surrounding the planet. 199 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:25,000 The small vehicle comes down to Earth and goes again, but chest to the big. 200 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,000 So you have to manipulate some control. 201 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:35,000 And you remember, Giorgio, we have this famous block of Palenque, Mexico. 202 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:43,000 And there, this young ruler, Pakal, is sitting on this sort of chair, manipulating some controls with two hands. 203 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:51,000 If you turn it a little, you have exactly the same pictures as young Buddha sitting in a stupa. 204 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:58,000 And you see, when you take any Indian temple, it doesn't matter if the temple is a young temple. 205 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,000 I mean, maybe it was constructed just 50 years ago, or it is an old temple. 206 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000 The temple is 2,000 years ago. It doesn't matter what. 207 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:11,000 On top of every Indian temple, still today, you have a so-called Vimana. 208 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:17,000 Vimana is, again, the flying machine from mythology, but it was not mythology. 209 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:23,000 But sometimes it was reality. And sometimes the Vimana has the shape of a stupa. Again. 210 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:31,000 What do you say to people who suggest that the ancient Indian epics are nothing else but a product of fantasy? 211 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:37,000 This is all garbage. It was real. It was reality. 212 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:43,000 The Vimana always came from the so-called cities in the sky. Today we would say mother's spaceship. 213 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:51,000 You know, there are some that have suggested that some of the Nazi scientists were inspired by Sanskrit texts. 214 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,000 Do you think that's a possibility? 215 00:20:53,000 --> 00:21:02,000 That's true. We know from some diaries of these scientists that they studied Sanskrit texts and they were influenced. 216 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:12,000 Eric then shared an interesting story with me about one of the German scientists he'd once met in person concerning the Wundawaffe developments. 217 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:20,000 You see, Werner von Braun was the one who launched Upsatwan V to the moon. He was the student of Professor Dr. Hermann Obot. 218 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:32,000 Hermann Obot is what we call the father of rockets. They were studying Hindu and Vedata texts, definitely, because when he was an old man, 219 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:38,000 I had the chance to speak together with Hermann Obot. And I asked him about these things. 220 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:47,000 Did you work at some kind of stupas, a kind of secret weaponry? He said, yes, we did work, but we never finished the work. 221 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,000 If we would have finished it, we would have won the war. 222 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:59,000 Thank you very much, Daphne, for answering some of these questions. And I'm not sure yet where I will go next in this investigation, 223 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:04,000 but this was invaluable information. Thank you very much, Eric, as always. 224 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:12,000 Thank you, George. You can come to my archives. It's endless. It will never end. All the links and stories together. 225 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,000 It all comes together, absolutely. 226 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:26,000 It's always fascinating to talk with Eric, and speaking with him made me wonder if maybe the Glocke wasn't only designed to be a part of a time-traveling craft, 227 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:31,000 but perhaps was also designed to be a time-traveling craft. 228 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:40,000 Because he kept on saying how the ancient people often reported seeing stupa-shaped craft coming down from the sky. 229 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:47,000 But was the mysterious bell-shaped object simply known as the Glocke really capable of space travel, 230 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:55,000 and if so, could it reach the kind of incredible speeds necessary to enable it to travel through time? 231 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,000 It is the feasibility of time travel. 232 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000 Well, we know it works. 233 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:07,000 Germany invented relativity. Intellectually, they had more than enough horsepower. 234 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,000 Human beings have dreamed of traveling through time for hundreds of years. 235 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:27,000 In 1905, Albert Einstein proved that time travel is, in fact, achievable based on his famous theory of relativity. 236 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:36,000 Since then, scientists have been trying to develop a time machine that can travel both forward and backwards in time. 237 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:46,000 And some propose that the best way to manipulate time is by creating an artificial time vortex or wormhole. 238 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Even NASA is developing warp drive technology that would allow us to exceed the speed of light and, in so doing, travel into the future. 239 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:05,000 And now I'm back in the States in Pittsburgh. 240 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:14,000 I still have some questions about time travel, and there's no one better to ask about time travel than Stanton Friedman, 241 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:21,000 a nuclear physicist, so I'm really looking forward to meet with one of the greatest minds in ufology today. 242 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:35,000 Stan, such a great time to see you again. How are you? 243 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,000 I've been a while. 244 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:43,000 So thank you very much for taking the time to meet with me and answer some of my questions. 245 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:44,000 In general? 246 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:55,000 I actually went to Poland to look at the Heng because, allegedly, the Nazis were working on this bell-shaped weapon called the Glocke, 247 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:04,000 at which they were able to manipulate space and time. Clearly, something went on, but what was it? 248 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,000 There's no question that German technology was outstanding, and before the Second World War, 249 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:13,000 certainly they were ahead of the United States in many areas of technology. 250 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:19,000 What is your opinion on the feasibility or the reality of time travel? 251 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,000 Well, there are areas where we know it works, as a matter of fact. 252 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:28,000 As you get close to the speed of light, time slows down. 253 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 How much will it depend on how close you get? 254 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:40,000 In Albert Einstein's theory of relativity, time dilation refers to the passage of time being affected by the laws of nature, 255 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,000 such as differences in gravity and velocity. 256 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:52,000 This phenomenon may be best illustrated by comparing an atomic clock on Earth with another one in space. 257 00:25:52,000 --> 00:26:03,000 Even though both clocks function perfectly, the clock in space will run slower due to the bending of space-time by the forces of gravity. 258 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:14,000 So I wanted to know, since time travel is theoretically possible, if the Nazi scientists could have achieved it during World War II, 259 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:24,000 could you surmise that this bell shape or cone shape in any way, shape or form, is conducive to manipulating time and space? 260 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:33,000 Whether it has anything to do with time or not, I don't know. I like the symmetry of it, because I expect anything with time is symmetrical. 261 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:43,000 If Hitler's guys had figured out how to build a time machine or an anti-gravity machine or some entirely new physical graph, 262 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,000 they would have used it during the war. I cannot believe that Hitler would have withheld it. 263 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:58,000 What if they couldn't complete what they were working on and it just so happened to be that America grabbed it? 264 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:06,000 I've seen no signs of that. However, it finally got 156 pages of top secret Umbra NSA UFO documents. 265 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,000 You can read one sentence per page. Everything else is whited out. 266 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:19,000 The CIA released a bunch of blacked out documents. Some of them have six words you could read, some eight words you could read. 267 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:25,000 And people say there's no cover-up. Well, there is a cover-up. It's very hard to say anything's impossible. 268 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:33,000 Well Stan, this has been a great honor. I've learned a lot. And your contribution here has been invaluable. So thank you very much. 269 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 It's my pleasure. I've learned something. 270 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,000 I'll let you know how all of this goes. 271 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Good. 272 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:52,000 I'm in Southern California about to meet with Dr. Bob Frisbee, a retired aerospace engineer, and we're about to conduct some wind tunnel tests on a bell-shaped object. 273 00:27:52,000 --> 00:28:04,000 I want to find out whether or not a vehicle with this shape is suitable for flight, because we still don't know if the Glocke was designed to be some kind of spacecraft. 274 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:10,000 George, you're welcome to the NASA wind tunnel at Cal State LA. 275 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:16,000 This is awesome. So this is where the hardcore science takes place. 276 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,000 Absolutely. 277 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:32,000 I've been all over the place investigating this idea that the Nazis built this strange weapon called the Glocke or the bell, and that this might have had something to do with a time travel device, which I find very intriguing. 278 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:47,000 In order to do something like time travel, you're going to need very large energies and masses and very odd configurations in order to make the equations of general relativity come out the way you want them to. 279 00:28:47,000 --> 00:29:01,000 You touched upon something that I've always found very interesting, because yes, it is conceivable that time travel is possible, but the energy requirements for that would be so vast that each of these devices is going to be able to do something. 280 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:14,000 Even if we combined all of our available energy resources today, is it correct that we don't have the energy resources to actually fire up the engine? 281 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:22,000 To make something like this work requires an enormous amount of mass to warp space time. 282 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:40,000 So if we somehow had an enormous amount of negative energy, we could warp space in just the directions you need and the way you need to do things like anti-gravity warp drives, wormholes, and potentially time machines. 283 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:56,000 I love it. In this investigation, when I read up that maybe the Nazis were working on a bell-shaped energy device that some have proposed might have been a time machine or something like that, my mind was blown. What do you think? 284 00:29:56,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Well, first of all, Germany invented relativity and quantum mechanics. So intellectually, they had more than enough horsepower to actually come to grips with the science of something like this. 285 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:26,000 The idea of time travel being possible is very exciting to me, and the concept that a person could travel not only through space, but also through time, is even more incredible. 286 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:42,000 But was the mysterious bell-shaped object simply known as the Glocke really capable of space travel, and if so, could it reach the kind of incredible speeds necessary to enable it to travel through time? That is what I needed to find out. 287 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:48,000 Join us here. I'd like to introduce you to Dr. Wu. Hello. 288 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,000 How are you doing? Nice to meet you. How are you? 289 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,000 Welcome to the Winter World Lab, gentlemen. 290 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,000 This is great. So this is it. 291 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,000 Today we're going to measure the aerodynamic drag. 292 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:09,000 Now, of course, in the vacuum of space, drag is not an issue, but a craft that's also designed to maneuver on Earth would need to be aerodynamically sound. 293 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,000 Let's fire her up. 294 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:20,000 Did you come across any reports whether or not there were any people inside this object? 295 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:27,000 There have been accounts which suggest that someone or something may have been inside the object. 296 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:32,000 I'm meeting with retired aerospace engineer Dr. Bob Frisbee. 297 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:41,000 I've asked him to test a stupa-shaped object in a wind tunnel to determine if it is aerodynamically suitable for flight. 298 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:56,000 If we can prove that the object could not only fly, but be capable of reaching the incredible speeds necessary for space travel, then it's just possible that the German Glocke might actually have been capable of time travel. 299 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,000 Let's fire her up. 300 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,000 And then we increase the airspeed and see the drag will be increasing. 301 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,000 Where do we see the airspeed? Right here. 302 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:24,000 As Dr. Wu increases the airspeed within the chamber, a drag sensor measures how efficient the object is in terms of aerodynamic resistance. 303 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,000 We're almost reaching 100 miles per hour. 304 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:32,000 I think we have more than enough information. 305 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,000 So now we can look at the data? 306 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:51,000 When Dr. Wu showed us his evaluation of how the bell-shaped design performed in the wind tunnel, I expected that it would produce a lot of drag because it doesn't look anything like a rocket ship or the sleek aerodynamic designs associated with most flying machines. 307 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,000 So what does this mean? How efficient is the shape? 308 00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,000 It's a comparison with other shapes like a shifu or a ball. 309 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:06,000 The wind tunnel test indicated that the bell shape is about twice as efficient as a sphere. 310 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:12,000 I'm surprised how aerodynamically sound the stupa actually is. 311 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:20,000 Even though it looks like it would be terribly inefficient, it's better than the simplest sphere. 312 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:25,000 I mean, that is very interesting. That is surprising for sure. 313 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:30,000 If the tests prove anything, it's that appearances can be deceiving. 314 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:44,000 In May of 2014, an aerospace company called SpaceX unveiled version 2 of their Dragon spaceship designed for travel into deep space. 315 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:52,000 And this ultra-modern spacecraft, like the Nazi Bell, bears a striking similarity to ancient stupas. 316 00:33:53,000 --> 00:34:01,000 Dr. Frisbee, thank you very much for answering some of my questions. And those wind tunnel tests were incredible. 317 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:08,000 This is a way of opening the possibilities as to what can be going on in the world and the universe around us. 318 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:17,000 Those are the only questions that we ask because this is something where people have forgotten that science, in the end, is an adventure. 319 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:25,000 I now know that the design for the Glocke is aerodynamically sound. 320 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,000 But what I still don't know is whether or not the device was ever constructed. 321 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:41,000 To find out the answer, I traveled to Kecksburg, Pennsylvania, the site of a now famous UFO crash involving a mysterious bell-shaped object. 322 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:55,000 On December 9th, 1965, a brilliant fireball streaking across the sky was witnessed by thousands of people as it flew over Michigan, Ohio and Pennsylvania. 323 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:01,000 Several hundred people started come crashing through the trees into a deep ravine. 324 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:12,000 These witnesses also reported that the U.S. Army later arrived on the scene, placed the object on a flatbed truck and quickly took it away. 325 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:18,000 To this day, the military has denied that this event even took place. 326 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:30,000 My first stop is to meet with Stan Gordon, a local researcher who is an expert in the 1965 Kecksburg crash. 327 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:40,000 This is one of the photos I took in the mid-1980s. This is where we found what appeared to be a pattern of pre-damage. 328 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000 These are actually all physically knocked down. 329 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:51,000 As you went down into the wooded area and found the trajectory, you found the fact that as this thing moved along, it knocked the trees out. 330 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,000 Some trees were broken in the same direction. 331 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Clearly, there was something there and there were reports in the news. 332 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:04,000 The newspaper accounts are quite interesting. The story made the national news. 333 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:10,000 It was picked up by not only the local papers, but it was also picked up by the national media as well. 334 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,000 Now, this was from our local Greensburg Tribune review. 335 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000 Look at that. Unidentified flying object falls near Kecksburg. 336 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,000 Army ropes off area. 337 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,000 Interesting. Okay. 338 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:27,000 In your investigations, did you come across any reports whether or not there were any people inside this object? 339 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:35,000 Because in Roswell's story, we always hear how they carried away bodies and that one of those bodies allegedly was alive. 340 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,000 So is there anything similar in this particular case? 341 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:49,000 There have been very interesting accounts which suggest a possibility that someone or something may have been inside the object. 342 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:54,000 What do you personally think the Kecksburg object was? 343 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,000 Well, I can tell you, there's various theories on it. 344 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:07,000 It ranges from being a very sophisticated power source to some type of anti-gravity machine and to, in fact, a time machine. 345 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,000 A time machine? 346 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:17,000 Is it at all possible that the Glocke or the Nazi Bell and the UFO that crashed in the woods at Kecksburg are one and the same? 347 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,000 And if so, what happened to it? 348 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,000 And could there be an extraterrestrial connection? 349 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:40,000 I'm in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania with local researcher Stan Gordon about to look at a full-sized model of the UFO that allegedly crashed here in 1965. 350 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:48,000 According to reports, it looks very much like the German Glocke and I can't wait to sit with my own eyes. 351 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,000 So this is it, huh? 352 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,000 That's correct, yes. 353 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,000 Wow. 354 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000 Let's go take a little closer look. 355 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000 I mean, this is pretty interesting. 356 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,000 Is this, I mean, tell me the story behind this. 357 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,000 Is this an exact replica of the eyewitness report? 358 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,000 Well, this is a markup of the object that reportedly fell here back in 1965. 359 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:21,000 The Kecksburg UFO looks almost identical to the designs and drawings I've seen of the so-called Nazi Bell, and it's sort of blowing my mind. 360 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:28,000 So what can you tell me about the size reference to the eyewitness reports in comparison to this replica right here? 361 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:43,000 Okay, well, according to eyewitnesses who were up in the ravine and were standing only several feet away from the object, they estimate that this thing was approximately maybe about 10 to 12 feet, maybe more in length, and about 8 to 10 feet in diameter. 362 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:48,000 And the popular term here is that this is called the acorn, right? 363 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,000 That's correct. 364 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:55,000 Well, one eyewitness said it looked like somebody took liquid metal and poured it into an acorn-shaped mold. 365 00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:12,000 There's no rivets, there's no seams, there's no weld marks, there's no fuselage, no windows, no doors, and on that raised up back area, what really caught his attention and others were these unusual markings that were raised up off the surface and looked more like symbols and letters. 366 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:18,000 I'm going to just take some pictures from my archives. 367 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,000 This has a perfect acorn shape. 368 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,000 So can you actually take me to the crash site? 369 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:29,000 I can take you up to the general area where a lot of the activities took place that evening. 370 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,000 Sounds great. 371 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,000 All right. 372 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,000 So let's go to the crash site. 373 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,000 Okay. 374 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:46,000 I know this is crazy to think about, but did a time machine built by the Nazis during World War II really crash land here in Kecksburg in 1965? 375 00:39:46,000 --> 00:40:00,000 I mean, it's highly speculative and I'm not saying that this is what happened, but just a possibility is mind-blowing and I can't wait to see the area where this thing touched down. 376 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,000 So this was the general area? 377 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000 Right, it's deep inside the wooded area. 378 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000 So you're telling me it's down there? 379 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,000 In this general area. 380 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,000 Okay. 381 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Let me see if I can... 382 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,000 And so from what direction did it approach? 383 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:22,000 Well, the object came in roughly from that general area, went out towards the mountains, out towards Warrowville. 384 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:31,000 Then the object turned and began to track back towards Kecksburg, went a little further out, made another turn and then came down into the wooded ravine. 385 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,000 So multiple turns? 386 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000 Yes. 387 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:41,000 I mean, this would indicate to me that it wasn't necessarily a flat-out crash, but maybe they were looking for a clearing to land safely. 388 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,000 So this object, whatever it was, apparently had made an unintentional landing. 389 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:51,000 It crashed through the woods, it locked down trees and then it ended up down at the bottom of the ravine. 390 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000 That's interesting. 391 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:59,000 I would love to go a little bit closer to see if we maybe can spot some of those knocked over trees. 392 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,000 Maybe they still exist. 393 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:16,000 So in this place, you're telling me that there used to be trees that were cut off in some sort of a pattern where the thing allegedly came in. 394 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:20,000 Well, we had found what appeared to be a pattern of trajectory. 395 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,000 We had found some trees were knocked down the same direction, other trees with the tops knocked out. 396 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,000 This is quite fascinating. 397 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:43,000 After visiting the site of the Kecksburg UFO crash, I'm fascinated by the eyewitness accounts of what appeared to be an acorn-shaped spacecraft 398 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,000 and its similarity to the designs for the Glocke that were discovered after the war. 399 00:41:49,000 --> 00:42:00,000 Is it possible that the technologies the Nazis were developing toward the end of World War II were based on ancient Buddhist and Hindu texts? 400 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:09,000 And was their plan to construct a time travel device made possible by reverse engineering extraterrestrial technology? 401 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,000 Two facts are certain. 402 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:18,000 Dr. Hans Kamler, the man in charge of the Nazi Glocke project, disappeared after the war. 403 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:27,000 And in 1965, thousands of people witnessed a UFO that they described as looking almost like an upside-down bell, 404 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:32,000 one that changed direction like someone was inside steering it. 405 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:37,000 Although a connection between these two events has not yet been proven, 406 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:46,000 I am sure that one day we will achieve some type of technology that will allow us to travel not only through space, 407 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:52,000 but perhaps also through time in search of aliens.